Carioca 17' Germany

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Carioca 17' Germany

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Hallo boat builder !

I intend to build a "Carioca" :D

Under the category "New Members" , i have already introduced myself.

I hope to be able to ask my questions here

and I think there will be a lot of questions !!! :?

At the moment I'm still brooding over the plans and part lists.

On the title "Carioca 17' Germany" , you can see that i calculate with cm and mm.
That doesn't make any easier ! :(

Best regards

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Good job. Hopefully your thread will attract builders and any help you may need.

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Let's try, Roberta ! :wink:


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You came to a good place. The people on the forum have been great for me.
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Hallo Steve !
I already feel accepted, nice people here ! :D



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Hallo friends ! :D

Here is my first question.

Holes for water drainage are provided in the Frames along the keel.

Left and right.

And than ?

Motor Well has Drain Holes, see image.

How does the water come out of the bilge ? :?

I think that also appies to other boats.

Holes to the left and right of the keel in the Transom ? :?

My idea, 2 bilge pumps, left and right from the keel. Outlet above the waterline. ( no Titanic) :shock:

Other solutions ?

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Juergen:

I have done just as you describe. Two bilge pumps and drains on either side of the transom knee (don't forget your drain plugs). I know some have not installed drains, and others don't have bilge pumps. Having both just makes me feel better.
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I think having the transom drains is a must if the boat will be stored outside and on a trailer. If it will be in the water all the time then the drains would not be as needed since you could never pull the plug.
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Hallo friends !

Can't build so fast as the answers come here ! :shock:

The boat is always taken out of the water.

For this reason also the size of the boat.
This can still pull my car ! :wink:


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As for the constuction

I have thesame problem that all builder seems to have had. :roll:

Wood procurement !

Have to see what i can get better to buy.

Mahogany or Oak !

Will call my timber dealer next week, what he can get more easily.


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Mahogany is better. Don't use red oak.

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No, then thought of white oak !


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White oak is fine. Red oak rots too easily.

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Red Oak absorbs water like sponge. Then it swells. When it swells the encapsulation breaks off. White oak doesn't do that.

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News ! :D

I received the first plywood for the corner joints of the frames.

Birch 6,5 mm ( 5 layers ) , something more like 1/4". Norm BFU100 ( water resistant )

The wood procurement is much difficult than expected !

Mahogany is the hard one to come here ! :roll:

But how did Glen write ? "Use what you can get" !

We grow a lot of white oak ! ( in front of the door ! ) :)

I ordered the first samples.

26mm thick, a little more like 1"

Mahogany is a must for a "runabout" like "Monte Carlo, Riviera, Torpedo" and so on !

But the "Carioca" doesn't necessarily need that for its appearance. :wink:

Look : GaryS "Mai Tai"


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