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steves
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ok folks, its time to get serious about a trailer, I looked and have not found where anyone provided an estimate for how much my boat will weigh.

I have the pcm 343 at 1000 lbs, I assume the boat and all appurtenances to be about 1500 lbs for a total of 2500 lbs. sound about right?

Looked again and Roberta, you mentioned 4500lb gross, was that including trailer?
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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Trailer capacity on most of these forum builds doesn't really matter:
Most all trailer axles that are anything heavier than the garden variety jon boat trailer, are rated at 3500lb axles.
3500lb single axle is borderline, so you get tandem axle trailer, now you at 7,000lb.
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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thanks Ken,
I was kinda hoping to get away with a single axle, sounds like that might be pushing it.

I appreciate the info sir!

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Yes, the gross weight is around 4500 lbs, trailer and loaded boat without passengers. Single axle trailers are easier to maneuver, but the safety and better load carrying ability of a tandem is far better. You can lose a tire or a bearing on a tandem and still be able to limp along and get it to help. Lose that on a loaded single axle trailer can spell disaster. I also recommend torsion axles over springs.

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I have a Tahoe 20. I trailer at a little under 3000#. I have a 125 Yanmar diesel (675#) and an aluminum trailer (single axle about 675#). After 15 years you worry about the tires. I didn't have the towing capacity at the time I bought the trailer. Weight was a big concern. Now with more capacity I wish I had a tandem trailer.

My normal pull is 200' forward, 200' back, 200' forward, and 200' back. The tires are not a worry. But, the Gathering is 700 miles each way. That's different.

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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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steves wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:56 am thanks Ken,
I was kinda hoping to get away with a single axle, sounds like that might be pushing it.

I appreciate the info sir!

Steve
Heavier single axle is available, but, its non-standard (i.e. expensive), and you not gonna find parts at local store (where you break down at)
Just go with tandem 3500lb axles that are standard to find parts.
You need to think what else you want, springs vs torsion axles,
what kind of brakes and how many,
overall width of trailer ( 8' vs 8'6")
You gonna try to set boat so low it sits between the fenders? if you do you may want a prop guard to go with that
I have high bunks sans prop guard
What kind of bunks? custom or standard
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Torsion axles and disc brakes :!: Particularly in salt water :!:

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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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Made the round trip from Dallas to Chattanooga with a Barrelback on a 3500lb single axle trailer. Total of 3800lbs. It’s not so much that the trailer is at it’s rated limited but the tires. Lots of old tournament ski boats were sold with single axle trailers. How far from home do you plan on towing your boat?
Tandem is preferable but it will work if you find a good used single axle. Keep good tires on it. Some of the decision is how much does a roadside repair upset you? I’m kind of like the father in A Christmas Story changing the tire, “Time me”.
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Matt, She looks sweet going down the road. Bet you got lots of "honks" from admirers.
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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I got my hatch lift sorted. I used these cute hinges but the force of the gas struts pulled the hinges apart, so I built some guides and it works perfectly.
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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I got my hatch lift sorted. I used these cute hinges but the force of the gas struts pulled the hinges apart, so I built some guides and it works
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That's looking really nice. It needs to get wet soon.
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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Thanks Matt, but I'm fighting electrical gremlins again....engine wont turn over again...dangit.
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Re: Texas Barrelback 20

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oh gosh, I'm a bit embarrassed to say the neutral safety switch appears to work as advertised. I must have bumped the throttle lever a bit messing around in the cockpit. Boat starts again!
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