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 Post subject: Building a Zip in Alabama
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:18 am 
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Hi all,
I am building my first boat, just got the plans and I am shopping around for lumbers and plywood (ALABAMA area).

I got the following quote:

Lumer Item Material No. Pcs Size
Keel Honduras Mahogany 1 1" x 4" x 12' $54.90 each
Shee Clamp Honduras Mahogany 4 5/8" x 1-1/4" x 16' $16.80 each
Chine Log Honduras Mahogany 2 1" x 2" x 16' $29.60 each
Battens Honduras Mahogany 4 1" x 2 1/2" x 10' $22.80 each
Frames Honduras Mahogany 30 Random bd. Ft 1" material 9.75 per bd ft
Carling, Runabout Honduras Mahogany 2 1" x 4'' x 8' $46.20 each
Carling Utility Honduras Mahogany 2 5/8" x 6" x 12' $66.20 each
Strongback Runabout Honduras Mahogany 1 1" x 2" x 8' $17.45 each
Strongback, Utility Honduras Mahogany 1 1" x 2" x 4' $11.80 each
Battens, Runabout Honduras Mahogany 1 1" x 2" x 11' $27.10
Seatback beam Honduras Mahogany 2 1" x 2" x 11' $27.10
Misc. 1" blocking not listed

Plywood Item Material No. Pcs Size
Side Planking - Note great care must be used in cutting both sides from the single sheet. Honduras Mahogany Marine AB 1 1/4" x 4' x 16' Okoume 4' x 8' 2 sheets $68.80 each
Bottom Planking Honduras Mahogany Marine AB 2 1/4" x 4' x 14' Okoume 4' x 8' 2 sheets $68.80 each
Transom, stem, breadstock Honduras Mahogany Marine AB 1 3/4" x 4' x 6' $Okoume 4' x 8' sheets $144.20 each

Shipping $235 total.

and I have the followings questions:

1) Is Marine Okoume BS1088 Grade ok?
2) For the Frames (Random bd. Ft 1" material) how many bd. ft do I need?
3) Is it the price reasonable?
4) Any supplier to suggest in ALABAMA area thae carries lumbers and plywood (Honduras Mahogany) for the Zip

I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks,

- Federico


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 Post subject: Re: Building a Zip in Alabama
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:35 am 
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Location: Montevallo, AL
Welcom to the forum. You'll find lots of knowlegable friends here ready to help anytime you have a question.
As for lumber, you might try Hardwoods Inc of Alabama. They are located just off of I-65 about 25 miles south of Alabaster.
They have all types of hardwood and a limited selection of marine plywood.
Tom

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 Post subject: Re: Building a Zip in Alabama
PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:47 am 
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Have you looked into using Marine Meranti (Sapele) BS1088 "Hydro-tek" instead of the Okoume?

Okoume is a nice lightweight material but its one of the weaker marine mahagany plywoods available, more often used on canoes and kayaks. Meranti is considerably stronger and I would suggest you take a look at it as an option.

My pricing for Meranty Marine BS1088 (Canadian)
1/4" @ $60.00/sht
3/8" @ $75.00/sht
3/4" @ $135.00/sht

That said, I've seen a ZIP built with Okoume and it turned out just fine.

I ordered 100 board feet of lumber for my larger Malahini boat, which should do everything but the top deck panelling. (+30 bdft most likely).

I paid $6.50/bd ft (Canadian dollar, almost on par with US$) for Sapele Mahogany (shipping extra). Honduras Mahogay is going to cost more and your rate of $9.75/bd ft is pretty close to what I was orginally quoted.

I would not order the material in individual lenghts, by my calculations you are paying $17.33/bdft for the 1" x 4" x 8' Carlings.

What I did was total up the overall board feet.. framing, chines, sheers, decking.. then ordered the lumber in random/random 4/4 (1" thick) quartersawn lumber and even got it planed down smooth (7/8").

I just received my lumber and plywood yesterday... but I did my research and I am very happy with the quality of material I received.

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 Post subject: Re: Building a Zip in Alabama
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:44 am 
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There is a supply place in Anniston that sells mahogany. Cant remember the name, but I will try to find name. They stock alot of cabinet grade wood and plywood.

Also, in Birmingham there is a company that can get marine plywood. I found them after I got my boat completed. Search the internet for marine plywood that is how I found them.


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 Post subject: Re: Building a Zip in Alabama
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:44 pm 
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Ok,
I finally placed the order on lumbers (Honduras Mahogany) and plywood (Meranti Marine Plywood BS 1088) at World Panel Products Inc (www.worldpanel.com). They were selected because the most helpful.
I should get it delivered by the end of this week.

I am really excited to start.

- Federico


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